tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5935799542324632108.post713223936079207120..comments2024-03-28T00:20:09.242-07:00Comments on Comic and Screen: JLU Scene-by-Scene: Batman v Superman Scene 21ottensamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09653631895217229875noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5935799542324632108.post-54157255297590480162016-06-04T09:00:55.572-07:002016-06-04T09:00:55.572-07:00One of my favorite scenes, too.
The photograph ri...One of my favorite scenes, too.<br /><br />The photograph right near Clark says, "You must be new to the Let Them Eat Cake beat. That's Bruce Wayne." But there's some commotion, so I can understand only hearing part of the line<br /><br />Glad I'm not alone on my Lex Senior interpretations. It's not explicit in the movie, but it makes a lot of sense to me.<br /><br />With regard to "I can't stay down here," I don't think Bruce means anything else by it but I think Terrio may have put it in as a subtle nod to Bruce still being in the midst of his fall. Maybe, maybe not... but it's fun to think about.<br /><br />And yeah, I think Diana and then later Wonder Woman was not part of Lex's plan.<br /><br />I totally agree about Diana being Bond-esque. And you're right, it probably would have helped a bit if her background was acknowledged a bit in the theatrical cut. <br /><br />Good point about Bruce's body language and demeanor toward Lex. And I totally agree that a lot of people's distaste for Lex means that Eisenberg totally did his job. (But it was a risky call to go that direction... I appreciated the boldness and the new take on his character.)ottensamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09653631895217229875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5935799542324632108.post-82866657358469827802016-06-04T07:09:47.922-07:002016-06-04T07:09:47.922-07:00This scene is probably my favourite in the entire ...This scene is probably my favourite in the entire movie so was excited to hear your analysis.<br /><br />I must admit I do not see the "let them eat cake" reference. Was this a dialog? All I recall is "You must be new. That... is Bruce Wayne"<br /><br />I too imagine Luthor Snr being the classic character beside whom Luthor Jnr does not possess the stature, commanding presence or exude charm. This serves to reinforce our dislike for the character. Did you notice how a few of the audience screwed their faces uncomfortably when Lex lost his rhythm? as if to say "#Fail!" It was an uncomfortable moment diagetically and also for us the audience. <br />Glad you mentioned Diana rolling her eyes... what a lovely touch.<br /><br />The scene fulfils years of anticipation. For this reason there is much joy. The coming together of Clark, Lex, Bruce and Diana. Not in their alter-ego costumes on a space station or another planet. But as civilians in a real-world location attending a believable event. Their characters are reinforced and I simply don’t understand why some argue character motivations were unclear. IMO audiences are too reliant upon exposition.<br /><br />I grinned from ear to ear when Clark heard the conversation between Bruce and Alfred. So obvious in retrospect yet I felt Snyder was thoughtful in including this. At this point, Clark knows there is more to Bruce than meets the eye.<br /><br />I especially enjoy your show for highlighting things such as Bruce/Batman descending. It's subtle but surely reinforces the themes of the character.<br /><br />It didn’t occur to me until you mentioned it, but come to think of it, Lex probably did allow Bruce to grab the data and that Mercy was there to make sure he did. I'd argue that there was no double-meaning to the "I can't stay down here" line. Bruce has slipped so far that he wouldn’t recognise this just yet. He hasn’t been enlightened yet. <br /><br />What it seems no one - even Lex - anticipated was that Diana would take the data.<br /><br />It must be said that Wonder Woman/Diana Prince shines in every scene in this film. There was a Bond-esq vibe to this scene and looking back I'd say that rather than a man, it was Diana who came across as most-Bond-like: deft, suave, sexy and alluring. It's a pity though that it wasn’t revealed who she was in the theatrical cut. That is: Diana is an antiquities dealer. It's important I think to have made this clear otherwise we are left wondering (NPI) "who the hell is this person?" This scene could have established that. Or alternatively a later scene when Bruce and Diana meet again.<br /><br />Your analysis of who knows who's secret-identity is well presented. It was clear to me by this point to me that Lex was the puppet master and I love that concept. His glee when he breaks the impasse between Clark & Bruce was so obvious and also cringe worthy. Jessie has been criticised for presenting a repugnant Lex Luthor. For this very reason I'd say he nailed the portrayal. We are meant to find this Lex off-putting, weird and wacky. <br />Speaking of portrayals, Ben's delivery of indifference toward Lex was excellent. I feel the to-and-fro scene between Clark & Bruce should be considered a classic and I appreciate you highlighting the shots made from wide to tight. I just wish the scene was never shown in the trailers. <br /><br />Finally, it's very telling that Clark chose to save people in need in Mexico rather than pursue Bruce. This is a very 'Superman' decision he made.<br /><br />Keep up the excellent work!ShaySayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17120876152726790179noreply@blogger.com